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*Atoo-Net (Philippe GRAND)
*Atoo-Net (Philippe GRAND)
*Atm Consulting (Maxime KOHLHAAS)
*DoliCloud (Laurent DESTAILLEUR)
*DoliCloud (Laurent DESTAILLEUR)
*Easya Solution (Philippe SCOFFONI)
*Easya Solution (Philippe SCOFFONI)
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*Scopen (Florian HENRY)
*Scopen (Florian HENRY)
*Tiaris (Jean HEIMBURGER)
*Tiaris (Jean HEIMBURGER)


=Topics=
=Topics=


==French Certification of Dolibarr system for France by LNE==
==French Certification of Dolibarr system for France by LNE==
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*Feedback was received 7 days after the 4th november 2025
*Feedback was received 7 days after the 4th november 2025
*10 points to fix in documentation
*LNE ask to fix 10 points in documentation => 10 was fixed in v1.2
*10 was fixed


Estimated date to resubmit the version 1.2 of documents: mid-January 
=>  The new version of documents were re-submited the 12th of january
=>  The new version of documents were re-submited the 12th of january
DoliCloud consumed workload for development and documentation<span> </span>: to date 580 hours (estimated valuation €47K) (400h for documentation (update Wiki, update foundation status) versus 180h of development)
=> This includes install and setup of Digiquali to record the 146 items of the certification requirement referenced in the documentation produced
=> fe dev remains to do and are planned for v24.


DoliCloud consumed workload for development and documentation<span> </span>:
- to date 580 hours (estimated valuation €47K) : This includes:
400 hours spent for documentation (update Wiki, update foundation status, update certificate documents available at https://github.com/Dolibarr/dolibarr-foundation/tree/develop/doc/Certification) versus 180h of development. It also includes install and setup of Digiquali to record the 146 items of the certification requirement, all referenced in the .odt documentation produced (around 500 pages)
Current STEP:
=> Waiting the LNE organization feedback to plan a date for the "Certification dry run". We hope to know the date before end of january
=> Dev remains to do and are planned for v24 to start the "Certification dry run".


==E-Invoicing==
==E-Invoicing==


First draft version of Dolibarr module is at state "work in progress" <span> </span>:
First draft version of Dolibarr module is at state "work in progress" <span> </span>:
https://github.com/Dolibarr/dolibarr-community-modules
https://github.com/Dolibarr/dolibarr-community-modules


DoliCloud consumed workload for development and documentation<span> </span>: to date 340 hours (estimated valuation €20K)
DoliCloud consumed workload for development and documentation<span> </span>: (to date) 340 hours (estimated valuation €20K)




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===Brand monitoring and action on infringing sites/companies===
===Brand monitoring and action on infringing sites/companies===
1 - DolibarrStore.com has been completely closed in january after Dolibarr foundation legal action and is now owned by Dolibarr foundation.
1 - The web site DolibarrStore.com has been completely closed in january, after Dolibarr foundation legal action and domain is now owned by Dolibarr foundation.
2 - Subject about forked modules<span> </span>:
 
    New rules have been written  in CGV<span> </span>:
2 - Subject about forked modules is new priority: Rules on how DoliStore manage forks have been clarified in Conditions and Terms of Use for resellers (CGV):
         FR<span> </span>: https://www.dolistore.com/conditions-generales-dutilisation_vendeurs-de-modules.php
         FR<span> </span>: https://www.dolistore.com/conditions-generales-dutilisation_vendeurs-de-modules.php
         EN<span> </span>: https://www.dolistore.com/terms-and-conditions-of-use-module-providers.php?l=en
         EN<span> </span>: https://www.dolistore.com/terms-and-conditions-of-use-module-providers.php?l=en
The rule S4 and S5 for module providers has been completed and clarified. This is the clarified version to explain: * How the Dolibarr foundation will manage the duplication (fork) of modules
The rule S4 and S5 for module providers have been completed and clarified. This is the clarified version to explain:  
 
* How the Dolibarr foundation manage the duplication (fork) of modules
 
* To clarify that Online selling services (alone) or installation or training services (alone) is now clearly forbidden. Instead, for "training", the provider can promote its service on a new page on the web site that will be created with a dedicated landing SEO related to training => TODO.


*Online selling services (alone) or installation or training services (alone) is now clearly forbidden. Instead for training, the provider can promote its service on a new page on the web site that will be created with dedicated landing SEO related to training.
* Remind to not do GPL violations.


=> FHE: mailing to all Dolistore module provider to alert that there is a change in CGV. Provider with a module that violates GPL and that are fork of another module still online have  
=> TODO FHE: Prepare mailing to all Dolistore module provider to alert that there is a change in CGV. Provider with a module that violates GPL and that are fork of another module still online have 2 month to disable their modules.


=> A new feature has been added into DoliStore to ask to enter the external cost.
=> A new feature has been added into DoliStore to ask to enter the external cost when a module need an external cost like a subscription to an online platform.




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**Email sent the 10th of September 2026 -> Remind sent the 9th of December 2025
**Email sent the 10th of September 2026 -> Remind sent the 9th of December 2025
**Call planned 20 January if no answer since
**Call planned 20 January if no answer since


==Preferred Partner==
==Preferred Partner==
One request refuse because rules are not respected
One request refused because requirements are not complete yet.


==Donation online==
==Donation online==
The feature to allow donation with an invoice automatically generated is ready in v23. Waiting v23 to have it online. Donation will not be subject to tax exemption.
The feature to allow donation with an invoice automatically generated is ready in v23. May not be used.
 
Will be activated on Dunning Module, when the v23 will be available. Cerfa PDF, have to be produced without tax exemption for the donator.


* TODO create a Call for tenders for this dev<span> </span>: Check that online payment of donation module works and suits the needs and send a CERFA after an online donation ?  Is VAT rate 0% ?
May be activated with Donation Module instead but Cerfa PDF have to be produced without tax exemption for the donator.


*TODO create a Call for tenders for this dev<span> </span>: Check that online payment of donation module works and suits the needs and send a CERFA after an online donation ?  Is VAT rate 0% ?


==DoliStore==
==DoliStore==
The foundation can also reduce the current discount of 20% to lower amount for members.
The foundation can also reduce the current discount of 20% to lower amount for members.


*1st January 2027, the discount of DoliStore modules for foundation members will 10 %
*1st January 2027, the discount of DoliStore modules for foundation members will be 10 %


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* TODO Laurent: Will update the wiki page to update the new rate of 10% from this date.
*The Wiki page has been updated and the condition of usage were also modified on the terms and condition of use on Dolistore.com
** Wiki page has been updated and the condition of usage were also modified on the terms and condition of use on Dolistore.com
**https://wiki.dolibarr.org/index.php/Pourquoi_adh%C3%A9rer
*** https://wiki.dolibarr.org/index.php/Pourquoi_adh%C3%A9rer
**https://wiki.dolibarr.org/index.php/Why_subscribe
*** https://wiki.dolibarr.org/index.php/Why_subscribe
 


==New amount for contribution to Preferred Partner==
==New amount for contribution to Preferred Partner==


*Communication will be done to define new price for member's subscription for Preferred Partner because needs of the foundation have been increased (communication, brand protection, event, subscription price was not reviewed since 2015) => Still in discussion.
*Communication will be done to define new price for member's subscription for Preferred Partner because needs of the foundation have been increased (communication, brand protection, event, subscription price was not reviewed since 2015) => Still in discussion.
**This price will be effective for renewal of membership of Preferred Partner. Board need to discuss more about rules to apply. The price will be the one defined during the previous meeting.
**This price will be effective for renewal of membership of Preferred Partner. Board need to discuss more about rules to apply. The price may be the one defined during the previous meeting.
**Philippe has prepared a communication, Maxime will send an emailing to preferred partner
**Philippe has prepared a communication, Maxime will send an emailing to preferred partner


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Action Laurent done: Add filter of country on the list or partner in the emailing selector for partners => Done, in production.
Action Laurent done: Add filter of country on the list or partner in the emailing selector for partners
 
=> Done, in production.


TODO Maxime: Send email to inform French Preferred Partner of the new subscription amount.
TODO Maxime: Send email to inform French Preferred Partner of the new subscription amount once finale price grid is ok.




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==Use stancer instead of Stripe for Dolistore==
==Use stancer instead of Stripe for Dolistore==
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To discuss next time...
To discuss next time...


==Create a Mistral account to use AI on the Dolibarr foundation ERP==
To discuss next time...


==DevCamps==
==DevCamps==
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=> Founding to be found because estimation of work load will be around ~ 100K€ budget
=> Founding to be found because estimation of work load will be around ~ 100K€ budget
- Dunning campaign vs Crowd Funding
- Dunning campaign vs Crowd Funding
- Raise partner label France amount ?
- Raise partner label France amount ?
- Private repository for the beginning ?
 
- Private repository for the beginning  
 
- Ask for dunning (pop-up/message) when the module will be available and activated on Dolibarr ?
- Ask for dunning (pop-up/message) when the module will be available and activated on Dolibarr ?
Will be discussed on another 30 min short meeting between board members 22 September
 
will be discussed on another 30 min short meeting between board members 22 September


*GIFF Accountancy 2025 (https://github.com/orgs/Dolibarr/projects/13)<span> </span>: Stop for now
*GIFF Accountancy 2025 (https://github.com/orgs/Dolibarr/projects/13)<span> </span>: Stop for now
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Volunteers have give interest to help foundation about founding, project, etc...
Volunteers have give interest to help foundation about founding, project, etc...


*Iouston (Julien) is trying to get some founds from the European NGI organization for Dolibarr foundation
*Iouston (Julien) is trying to get some founds from the European NGI organization in the name of the Dolibarr foundation

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Title/Date/Location

  • Title: Foundation board meeting
  • Date: 2026-01-13
  • Location: Online with NextCloud

Presents

Members of the board (subscription up to date) that are present (Name of organization and name of contact):

  • Atoo-Net (Philippe GRAND)
  • DoliCloud (Laurent DESTAILLEUR)
  • Easya Solution (Philippe SCOFFONI)
  • Inovea Conseil (Nicolas ZABOURI + Alexandre SPANGARO)
  • Scopen (Florian HENRY)
  • Tiaris (Jean HEIMBURGER)

Topics

French Certification of Dolibarr system for France by LNE

First version of documents (version 1.1) has been transferred to LNE the 4th of November

  • Feedback was received 7 days after the 4th november 2025
  • LNE ask to fix 10 points in documentation => 10 was fixed in v1.2

=> The new version of documents were re-submited the 12th of january

DoliCloud consumed workload for development and documentation :

- to date 580 hours (estimated valuation €47K) : This includes:

400 hours spent for documentation (update Wiki, update foundation status, update certificate documents available at https://github.com/Dolibarr/dolibarr-foundation/tree/develop/doc/Certification) versus 180h of development. It also includes install and setup of Digiquali to record the 146 items of the certification requirement, all referenced in the .odt documentation produced (around 500 pages)

Current STEP:

=> Waiting the LNE organization feedback to plan a date for the "Certification dry run". We hope to know the date before end of january

=> Dev remains to do and are planned for v24 to start the "Certification dry run".

E-Invoicing

First draft version of Dolibarr module is at state "work in progress"  :

https://github.com/Dolibarr/dolibarr-community-modules

DoliCloud consumed workload for development and documentation : (to date) 340 hours (estimated valuation €20K)


Brand protection actions

Brand monitoring and action on infringing sites/companies

1 - The web site DolibarrStore.com has been completely closed in january, after Dolibarr foundation legal action and domain is now owned by Dolibarr foundation.

2 - Subject about forked modules is new priority: Rules on how DoliStore manage forks have been clarified in Conditions and Terms of Use for resellers (CGV): 

       FR : https://www.dolistore.com/conditions-generales-dutilisation_vendeurs-de-modules.php
       EN : https://www.dolistore.com/terms-and-conditions-of-use-module-providers.php?l=en

The rule S4 and S5 for module providers have been completed and clarified. This is the clarified version to explain:

  • How the Dolibarr foundation manage the duplication (fork) of modules
  • To clarify that Online selling services (alone) or installation or training services (alone) is now clearly forbidden. Instead, for "training", the provider can promote its service on a new page on the web site that will be created with a dedicated landing SEO related to training => TODO.
  • Remind to not do GPL violations.

=> TODO FHE: Prepare mailing to all Dolistore module provider to alert that there is a change in CGV. Provider with a module that violates GPL and that are fork of another module still online have 2 month to disable their modules.

=> A new feature has been added into DoliStore to ask to enter the external cost when a module need an external cost like a subscription to an online platform.


Current process with websites that use illegally Dolibarr trademark (in domain name or company name) is on process.

The generic email to sent to each contact that does not follow the rules on using the Dolibarr trademark has been validated by the lawyer.

This is the list of other known case:

  • https://dolibarr-belgique.be
    • Email sent the 10th of September 2026 -> Remind sent the 9th of December 2025
    • Call planned 20 January if no answer since

Preferred Partner

One request refused because requirements are not complete yet.

Donation online

The feature to allow donation with an invoice automatically generated is ready in v23. May not be used.

May be activated with Donation Module instead but Cerfa PDF have to be produced without tax exemption for the donator.

  • TODO create a Call for tenders for this dev : Check that online payment of donation module works and suits the needs and send a CERFA after an online donation ? Is VAT rate 0% ?

DoliStore

The foundation can also reduce the current discount of 20% to lower amount for members.

  • 1st January 2027, the discount of DoliStore modules for foundation members will be 10 %


New amount for contribution to Preferred Partner

  • Communication will be done to define new price for member's subscription for Preferred Partner because needs of the foundation have been increased (communication, brand protection, event, subscription price was not reviewed since 2015) => Still in discussion.
    • This price will be effective for renewal of membership of Preferred Partner. Board need to discuss more about rules to apply. The price may be the one defined during the previous meeting.
    • Philippe has prepared a communication, Maxime will send an emailing to preferred partner

https://wiki.dolibarr.org/index.php/Dolibarr_Preferred_Partner#For_France


Action Laurent done: Add filter of country on the list or partner in the emailing selector for partners

=> Done, in production.

TODO Maxime: Send email to inform French Preferred Partner of the new subscription amount once finale price grid is ok.



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End of the meeting, next lines were reconducted from previous month and were not processed or removed.

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Use stancer instead of Stripe for Dolistore

To discuss next time...


Create a Mistral account to use AI on the Dolibarr foundation ERP

To discuss next time...

DevCamps

Summer DevCamp 2026: Noisy Le Grand (NET Logic) - Gilles Poirier

  • Date: Thursday 11 June 2026 to Sunday 14 June 2026 => The proposal for hostel is accepted if we remove lunch for the Sunday (midi) - 100 euros per user / day without the lunch on Friday
  • Price for subscription will be increased to: 180 HT per participant
  • Maxime will call Gilles to explain


Winter DevCamp 2026

  • Date: TBD
  • Location: Lyon - Open-DSI
  • OpenDSI gathering the quotation


Summer DevCamp 2027: Date: TBD

  • Date: TBD
  • Lille - Nord ERP CRM is confirmed too.

Communication plan

Communication plan is budgeted for 2026 (around 20 K€)

TODO Maxime: Will send the existing page to say "Thank you" + The Video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySEP5eBeE0Y)


Next congress / meeting

  • FOSDEM (Brussels)(31 January & 1 February 2026) : Laurent D. will be there
  • Salon Paris Open Source Experience 2026
    • Application of Dolibarr is still not validated
      • Waiting answer from organization.


Task done for the Foundation by Laurent during past month (access not public)

List of dev done by Laurent for the foundation internal needs (access private)

https://admin.dolibarr.org/projet/tasks/time.php?sortfield=t.element_date%2Ct.element_datehour%2Ct.rowid&sortorder=desc%2Cdesc%2Cdesc&begin=&contextpage=timespentlist&search_user=2&search_date_startday=1&search_date_startmonth=8&search_date_startyear=2025&projectid=1&withproject=1


GIF(F): Groupement d’intérêt Fonctionnel (et financier)

3 GIF in progress (https://wiki.dolibarr.org/index.php?title=Category:Groupement_d%27Int%C3%A9r%C3%AAt_Fonctionnel)

=> Founding to be found because estimation of work load will be around ~ 100K€ budget

- Dunning campaign vs Crowd Funding

- Raise partner label France amount ?

- Private repository for the beginning

- Ask for dunning (pop-up/message) when the module will be available and activated on Dolibarr ?

will be discussed on another 30 min short meeting between board members 22 September


DoliStore Evolution

Private Project on Github foundation created to prioritize with issues


Help to find founding

Volunteers have give interest to help foundation about founding, project, etc...

  • Iouston (Julien) is trying to get some founds from the European NGI organization in the name of the Dolibarr foundation
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