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| * Title: 20131126 teleconf | | * Title: 20140316 DevCamp |
| * Date: 20131126 | | * Date: 20140316 |
| * Location: Hangout | | * Location: Valence DevCamp |
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| Realtime working sheet
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| http://lite.framapad.org/p/Meeting_Dolibarr_20131122
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| | * Create a subject Specifics Dev on the forums ? |
| | Before create this topic we wait until next devcampc to officially launch http://funding.dolibarr.fr/ where still need define "la gestion des droits de consultation et lien avec les autres outils de l'asso..." |
| | The SPIP project behind funding.dolibarr.org is on DoliForge. |
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| | * No new Dolibarr Prefered Partner Request |
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| | * Use GitBug as maintenance tools : |
| | We try to migrate Tuleap on new version => KO. |
| | For the new version CentOS 6.4 (x64) is needed. |
| | At least put a link to the bug tracker on the dolibarr.fr and dolibarr.org |
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| | * Dolibarr ERP & CRM © Deposit Trademark |
| | 2 providers in short list |
| | => options (1) 3 * 8000€ |
| | => options (2) 13000 € (including US but that is not wished) |
| | Let's see the new offers with removing US, and other adaptation |
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| * Create a subject Specifics Dev on the forums ?
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| http://www.dolibarr.fr/forum/2-fonctionnement-du-forum/43462-re-recherche-developpeur-ou-mettre-lannonce/
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| For the moment it works like when poeple ask dev request on forum, it's manually forwarded to preferred partner mailing list
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| Before create this topic we wait until next devcampcto officially launch http://funding.dolibarr.fr/ where still need define "la gestion des droits de consultation et lien avec les autres outils de l'asso..."
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| * 2 new Dolibarr Prefered Partner Request
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| ** Drosis Nikos Technicks ICT
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| ** Altaris
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| Both of them are agreed
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| | * New Web Site dolibarr.fr |
| | http://vps47321.ovh.net/ |
| | Still CSS point to solve |
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| * Renew domain (check OVH mail in asso mailbox) and renew SSL pour DoliForge | | * TODO : Plan General assembly in April |
| SSL doliforge renew
| | Vote CA |
| | vote bilan morale |
| | vote bilan comptable |
| | Appel à candidature |
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| * Use GitBug as maintenance tools
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| Take task and bug from doliforge to github
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| Advantage : fully integrated to devtools
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| Disadvantage:
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| May be one day github will be a paid system per bug or task ...
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| Question: Is there a way to migrate existing content into github ?
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| GitHub contains a bug tracker but no tracker feature
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| GitHub does not contain important features into tracker like priority/module/criticality, task opened to external developer, ...
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| Pas de raison de changer. Le gestionnaire github est restreint et primaire (titre, description et c'est tout). Apparemment on peu mettre des tags pour remplacer les catégories (Maxime)
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| Pourquoi le dépôt Github n'est pas sur doliforge? => doliforge manque quand même des fonctionnalités pour le workflow quotidien et très pratique. Pour les tâches et les bugs c'est l'inverse.
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| => À réfléchir et discuter au DevCamp.
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| => Maxime fera une démo de comment obtenir le même niveau de fonctionnalité avec le tracker de github durant le devcamp.
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| In asso.dolibarr.org/dolibarr : | | In asso.dolibarr.org/dolibarr : |
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| * A) Before working on any other service/enhancement that the foundation can do/offer, we should enhance automation of already existing tool. | | * A) Before working on any other service/enhancement that the foundation can do/offer, we should enhance automation of already existing tool. |
| For example, we should: | | For example, we should: |
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| Still on the road, check after new dolibarr.fr and dolibarr.org if there is possiblity to fund all this stuff | | Still on the road, check after new dolibarr.fr and dolibarr.org if there is possiblity to fund all this stuff |
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| | | C) Draft of Dolibarr integrator label |
| * Dolibarr ERP & CRM © 2003-2012 - Gestion commerciale ou associative. In Dolibarr.fr footer. Is dolibarr a deposed trademark ?
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| In some countries in europe, dolibarr was registered by some companies.
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| Except for France where the trademark was registered by Laurent Destailleur as president of Dolibarr Foundation.
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| So for france, there is no need to vote to transfer trademark from nltechno company because trademark is not owned by any company (nor nltechno nor any other).
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| For other countries, I don't know how to find which companies has bought the trademark in their country (I know german community did it, and i think 2byte did it for spain, but i don't think it's a good idea to ask them to cease trademark to someone else than them, because they bought the trademark to protect project since they want to invest on dolibarr and wanted to be sure to not loose money because of someone doing something else with the trademark.
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| However, what could be a good idea is to launch an action to let the foundation buy trademark for "europe" (OHMI) or work (OMPI) (for countries where no companies has already buy it). For europe, it cost 1000 euros + a laywercalled "mandataire" if we want to be sure to do things correctly , i think 3000 euros should be ok.
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| => Vote trademark protection for Europe in the name of moral entity of Dolibarr fundation with a limit for budget (I suggest ok if <= 3000 euros for ten years)
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| => Laurent va rechercher pour avoir devis de mandataire.
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| * B) Someone to work onto domain name transfer (from Regis to Dolibarr foundation) ?
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| => Régis give all ownership to dolibarr association (géré par Philippe Grand)
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| dolistore.* sont à renouveler chez OVH : le besoin est-il vraiment là vu la multiplicité des extensions?
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| Laurent : protéger les domaines important, toutes les déclinaisons n'ont pas trop d'intérêt. => JF OK... ça chiffre vite les domaines et on a pas fini!
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| dolibarr.eu ?
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| doliforge et dolistore .eu, .fr , .org, .com,.es (dolibarr.es reste a 2bytes)
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| Pour les changements de propriété des différents domaines, il faut faire des courriers justificatifs.
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| À voir si dolibarr.es peut être acheté par l'asso. Pour l'instant appartient à 2byte et cela ne pose pas de problème.
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| L'avantage pour l'asso d'être propriétaire des domaines : garder un peu la main sur l'organisation des communautés (exemple avec .de)
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| * C) Draft of Dolibarr integrator label
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| => Difficulté d'évaluer le serieux des potentiels candidats... Idée: différencier des échelons | | => Difficulté d'évaluer le serieux des potentiels candidats... Idée: différencier des échelons |
| => The management of preferred partner program is already a program that consume a lot of time, difficult to find for the foundation. Having a more complex system will | | => The management of preferred partner program is already a program that consume a lot of time, difficult to find for the foundation. Having a more complex system will |